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Andor Ep. 10. This is intense. Prison breaks. Dirty money. Double lives. If you want to make an omelet, I guess you have to break a few eggs. Still not a Jedi or lightsaber in sight. This is intense.
 

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Andor Ep. 10. This is intense. Prison breaks. Dirty money. Double lives. If you want to make an omelet, I guess you have to break a few eggs. Still not a Jedi or lightsaber in sight. This is intense.
https://www.sfgate.com/streaming/article/andor-disney-plus-prison-break-17574680.php

https://defector.com/i-cant-fucking-believe-how-good-andor-is/
the first Star Wars story in which the characters feel like products of the galaxy they live in, rather than the other way around. For as much as Star Wars wants to be about unlikely heroes, hope, and collective action, in the end they are mostly about special and powerful people reshaping the galaxy as they see fit. The people who matter are the ones with the proper lineage, magical powers, and the ability to alter the course of history for no other reason than the fact that they were fated to do so.
 
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https://www.sfgate.com/streaming/article/andor-disney-plus-prison-break-17574680.php

https://defector.com/i-cant-fucking-believe-how-good-andor-is/
the linfirst Star Wars story in which the characters feel like products of the galaxy they live in, rather than the other way around. For as much as Star Wars wants to be about unlikely heroes, hope, and collective action, in the end they are mostly about special and powerful people reshaping the galaxy as they see fit. The people who matter are the ones with the proper lineage, magical powers, and the ability to alter the course of history for no other reason than the fact that they were fated to do so.
Good stuff. Wish I had written it.
 

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I keep seeing lots of people all over the interwebz talk about how Andor is high-quality stuff. My question: Do I need to watch Rogue One before diving into Andor? And a follow-up question: Is Rogue One a decent movie?

I'll hang up and listen.
 

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I keep seeing lots of people all over the interwebz talk about how Andor is high-quality stuff. My question: Do I need to watch Rogue One before diving into Andor? And a follow-up question: Is Rogue One a decent movie?

I'll hang up and listen.
What makes Rogue One interesting is the move away from the simple black-and-white morality of the canonical Star Wars movies. We already knew that the Empire did bad things, but Rogue One shows us unflinchingly that the Rebels also had the capacity to do bad things in the name of the rebellion. The possibility of moral failure among the rebels is present and obvious in the key opportunities for betrayal--a situation that's about as far from the original SW canon as you can get.

And that alone makes it a refreshing change from the childlike moral vision of the original SW canon.

Andor is mostly the backstory of Rogue One's male protagonist, Cassian Andor, during the five years leading up to the events of Rogue One. There is also the backstory of Mon Mothma, the Imperial senator who became the leader of the Rebellion. We're slowly learning what her choices are costing her.

Rogue One nudges open the door to the possibility of moral compromise; Andor kicks it wide open, and that's part of why those of us who have seen Rogue One are being gobsmacked by Andor. (Think of ST-DS9 "In the Pale Moonlight" in which Captain Sisko went where no Star Trek captain had ever gone before--morally speaking, of course.)

Seeing Rogue One will tell you how Cassian Andor ends up, but I haven't seen anything yet in Andor that makes sense only if you've seen Rogue One.
 

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Andor Ep. 11. For David: “Andor is Star Wars without space wizards.” Or cutesy fuzzies. Somebody has described it as having the pace and characterization of a BBC spy series.

Cassian Andor as a prisoner/slave: “I’d rather die trying to take them down than die giving them what they want.”

Ep. 11. Is the noose tightening around the neck of the barely-born rebel movement? Rebellions are serious business; careers, families, lovers, lives at stake.
 

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And a follow-up question: Is Rogue One a decent movie?

I'll hang up and listen.
R1 is really great.

Bott needs to reformat his hard drive on this one. He probably cosplays as a Gungan when he's not watching the JLH show.
 

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Any idea what the widgets they were making in the labor camp are? Thought they might be feet for scout walkers?
I wondered that, too. I’ll have to rewatch to get another look—not that it will help much. I also wondered about the clandestine communication device—unless George Lucas altered the physics of radio communications, in which case all bets are off.
And now we know.
 

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Arghhh...was busy cooking last evening and forgot to watch. Dang!
Sneaked it in while Mrs Menno was finishing her dishes and doing yoga. The 12th episode brings us back to our starting point, but with all the principals present (save one—but her plotline is orthogonal to the main storyline at this point). It’s simply good storytelling to wrap it up this way, all the while letting us know that there is still much to be told. I would praise the actors, but given that I’ve been a bit of an inkstained wretch myself, I hold my highest praise for the writers. Their mastery of their craft is everywhere: the pace of the telling is both unhurried and economical. There is really no waste; every scene moves the story forward and shows us more about the characters we’re riding with. The lines and speeches are powerful without being overwrought.

Can’t believe we’ll have to wait two years for Season 2. Also can’t believe I have to drive to Philadelphia yet today.
 

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From Andor Ep. 12:

Cassian Andor received word that his mother died while he was far away. He has returned to their home for her funeral. Brasso is his friend.

Cassian: I wanted her to leave with me.
Brasso: I know.
C: I came to get her.
B: She told me.
C: I couldn't get back.
B: You shouldn't be here now, Cass.
C: But the last time I saw her, we argued.
B: Don't.
C: I told her I was coming back.
B: Stop.
C: I never should have left that morning.
B: Stop. She told me you'd say all this. 'Tell him, none of this is his fault. It was already burning. He's just the first spark of the fire. Tell him, he knows everything he needs to know and feels everything he needs to feel. And when the day comes, and those two pull together, he will be an unstoppable force for good. Tell him... I love him more than anything he could ever do wrong.'
 
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